Former Trump adviser tells ABC News he ‘probably’ called president an ‘idiot’
ABC News(NEW YORK) — One of President Donald Trump’s former political advisers said Thursday that he “probably” called the president an “idiot” in a conversation described in an explosive new book about the Trump White House, but that the comment was sarcastic.
Sam Nunberg, a former Trump aide fired from his presidential campaign in August of 2015, said some of his comments about Trump were taken out of context in Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, by Michael Wolff.
“I’m not out here to criticize Michael, but I think Michael used flourish — I’ll put it — on the events I described,” he said in an interview with ABC News’ The Briefing Room Thursday.
In the forthcoming book, Wolff claims that Nunberg referred to Trump as an “idiot” in a conversation with Steve Bannon, Trump’s former chief strategist.
“‘If you can get this idiot elected twice,’ Nunberg marveled, you would achieve something like immortality in politics,” Wolff writes of Nunberg. ABC News has obtained and reviewed copies of the book ahead of its release.
“I’m from New York and I’m very sarcastic,” Nunberg said of the comment, adding that he had not seen that portion of the book yet. “I certainly probably said that but he’s by no means an idiot, at all.”
“I’m sure he’s used very colorful words about me in the past,” he said of Trump.
In another section of the book, Wolff writes that Nunberg struggled to explain the Constitution to Trump.
“I got as far as the Fourth Amendment before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head,” Wolff writes of Nunberg’s recollection.
Nunberg said the exchange was part of preparations for a GOP presidential primary debate.
“I wasn’t there to teach the president the Constitution. The President had a granular understanding of the Constitution, it was good enough,” he said. “It was around eight days before the first debate and I didn’t want him to have any gotcha questions.”
The White House has disputed the veracity of Wolff’s reporting. Charles Harder, a personal attorney for the president, has sent cease-and-desist letters to Wolff, his publisher and Steve Bannon.
Nunberg declined to dispute the direct quotes Wolff has attributed to him, and also called the author a “good friend.”
“When I sat with Michael, who I like a lot, these were very casual type conversations and dinners and lunches,” he said. “I’m not disputing what he writes in the totality, I’m just trying to give it a little more color.”
Henry Holt, the book’s publisher, said Thursday afternoon that it now plans to release Fire and Fury on Friday, rather than next week “due to unprecedented demand.”
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